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Re: Opcenita auto tema
« Reply #300 on: September 04, 2012, 18:32:41 »
Naravno, dobro kažete... Sve ovisi o tome tko i kako vozi. Dakle ako je neki profesionalni upućeni vozač, onda može postići prosjek od 3,2 litre. Isto tako može i ovo postići: http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/volkswagen-world/news/259

Dok netko ko ne zna nebi mogao ni polovicu udaljenosti preći.
"Racing, competing, it's in my blood. It's part of me, it's part of my life; I have been doing it all my life and it stands out above everything else."

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Re: Opcenita auto tema
« Reply #301 on: September 04, 2012, 18:33:54 »
Golf dvojka je imala 900kg
Mislio je na razliku između golfa VI i Golfa VII.
"Racing, competing, it's in my blood. It's part of me, it's part of my life; I have been doing it all my life and it stands out above everything else."

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Re: Opcenita auto tema
« Reply #302 on: September 04, 2012, 18:37:47 »
put od cirka 300km normalna vožnja po ograničenju(po plominci kolko ide 20ak km u jednom smjeru, marčana-barban cca 120km/h dužina oko 20km u jednom smjeru ravna cesta), renault laguna 1.8 16v oko 1400kg + ja i bicikla unutra
prosjek 6.9L/100km

ako ne radiš 20k+ godišnje dizel nema smisla, bar po meni


na motoru prosječna brzina visoka da se blago izrazim
5.5L/100km 8)
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Re: Opcenita auto tema
« Reply #303 on: September 04, 2012, 18:45:31 »
ako ne radiš 20k+ godišnje dizel nema smisla, bar po meni

Tu puno ljudi griješi...

Treba vidjeti općenito razliku u cijeni između bezninca i dizela kojeg planiraš kupit. Bitano je i koliko će ti auto dugo biti u vlasništvu. I naravno godišnja kilometraža. Zatim cijene servisa, osiguranja i slično. Te ostatak vrijednosti pri prodaji auta. Sama potrošnja ovisi di se auto koristi. Netko tko živi u ZG sigurano ima veću potrošnju od nekoga tko živi u nekom manjem mjestu i više km radi po otvorenome.

Nedavno su u automotorisportu radili usporedbe na 6 godina, uzeli su 6-7 raznih auta. U većini slučajeva dizel se isplaćivao na manje od 10tkm godišnje, golf je bio najtvrđi zbog štedljivog TSI bezninca, tamo se dizel isplaćivao tek nakon 13tkm.

I na kraju, mislim da je u većini slučajeva dizel bolji za vozit zbog elastičnosti...


Naravno, svatko treba raditi računicu isključivo za svoje potrebe, ove općenite nisu baš mjerilo za raspravu ;)

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Re: Opcenita auto tema
« Reply #304 on: September 04, 2012, 19:11:56 »
kad smo kod potrošnje.....

Ford Formula Racer with 202HP 1.0-liter EcoBoost Records 11th Fastest Time at the 'Ring





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Ford's 1.0-liter EcoBoost turbocharged three-cylinder petrol engine, which is offered in two states of tune in Europe with 99HP (100PS) and 123HP (125PS), may be small in size, but with some tender loving care in the appropriate vehicle, it can prove to be feisty as a cornered cat.

The Blue Oval's engineers wanted to display the potential of the EcoBoost engine by modifying the three-cylinder force-fed unit and placing it in a Formula Ford racecar to lap the Nürburgring’s famed Nordschleife circuit.

Ford's engineers were able to tune the engine and lift output to 202-horses (205PS). They then switched it with Formula Ford’s usual 178HP (180PS), 1.6-litre EcoBoost power unit and set out to conquer the Nordschleife.

According to the automaker, the project team also modified the car so it would be fully street legal for on-road use by fitting it with wheel covers, front and rear lights and indicators, aerodynamically designed wing mirrors and a horn.

Power is transferred to the road through a 6-speed manual gearbox and road-legal tires.

With the 202hp 1.0-liter EcoBoost under its hood and racing driver and course specialist Nick Tandy behind the wheel, the Formula Ford model lapped the 'Ring in 7 minutes and 22 seconds to register the 11th fastest time ever on the circuit.

The Formula Ford completed the 20.832 km (12.94 mile) Nordschleife circuit at an average speed of 169 km/h (105 mph).

To put it into perspective, the road-legal Formula Ford beat previously recorded fastest times of many (production and street legal) supercars including the 700 horsepower Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4, the 660 horsepower Ferrari Enzo and the 602 horsepower Pagani Zonda, according to the Blue Oval.

"This little engine has people rubbing their eyes in disbelief," said Nick Tandy, 28. "It’s simply astonishing that a 3-cylinder, one-litre engine can deliver that kind of performance."

The company claims that the car's unofficial top speed is expected to be 255.5 km/h (158.8 mph) with a 0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) time of less than four seconds, while delivering 2.4 l/100 km (117mpg UK or 98mpg US) at 56 km/h (35mph), and 5 l/100 km (56.7mpg UK or 47mpg US)) at 120km/h (75 mph).

"We wanted to prove that size doesn’t matter by showing everyone what an amazingly capable engine we have developed in the 1.0-litre EcoBoost," said Roelant de Waard, vice president of Marketing and Sales at Ford of Europe. "What better way than by beating some of the best supercars in the world on the Nordschleife, while using a fraction of the fuel."

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Re: Opcenita auto tema
« Reply #305 on: September 04, 2012, 20:07:41 »
Golf dvojka je imala 900kg
Mislio je na razliku između golfa VI i Golfa VII.

da, jasno, VII će biti 100kg lakši od VI, znači oko 1300-1400kg
spomenuto je da je dvojka mizerno malo trošila

pa sam jedan od razloga te male potrošnje našao u masi od 900kg

zakurac im sjajni motori kad rade gojazne tenkove, svi odreda

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Re: Opcenita auto tema
« Reply #306 on: September 04, 2012, 20:33:36 »
Ne versus, to znači od 1050 za ulazni model pa naviše...

Pa nije ovo Astra pa da ima tonu ipo ;D

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Re: Opcenita auto tema
« Reply #307 on: September 04, 2012, 20:44:36 »
dovraga i bestraga, samo 1050, pa to je perolako

ne'š s tim moć' proć' Masleničkim mostom a da te ne otpuše put Obrovca

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Re: Opcenita auto tema
« Reply #308 on: September 04, 2012, 21:05:49 »
Naravno, to je osnovni model, vjerojatno s 2 vrata, ali kako god okreneš biti će lakši od svih konkurenata, od nekih i 300 kg što je stvarno puno.

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Re: Opcenita auto tema
« Reply #309 on: September 05, 2012, 14:00:50 »
Podaci za osnovni model, 1.2 tsi sa trend paketom opreme:

Motor, Getriebe, Elektrik

   Motor - Bauart:   4-Zylinder-Ottomotor

   Ventile pro Zylinder:   4

   Einspritzung / Aufladung:   Direkteinspritzung / Turbocharger

   Hubraum:   1.197 cm³

   Max. Leistung:   63 kW (85 PS) bei 4.300 - 5.300 /min

   Max. Drehmoment:   160 Nm / 1400 - 3500 1/min

   Getriebe:   5-Gang


Gewichte

   Leergewicht:   1.205 kg

   Zul. Gesamtgewicht:   1.720 kg

   Zuladung:   590 kg


Fahrleistungen

   Höchstgeschwindigkeit:   179 km/h

   Beschleunigung von 0-80 / 0-100 km/h:   7,6 s / 11,9 s

   Elastizität 80-120 km/h (4./5. Gang):   12,5 s / 18,0 s

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Re: Opcenita auto tema
« Reply #310 on: September 05, 2012, 15:04:40 »
kao što rekoh, 1050kg ne znam odakle se ta brojka pojavila ali bilo je suludo očekivati da će imati tako malo kila

naravno 1200kg je normalno za kompakta
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Re: Opcenita auto tema
« Reply #311 on: September 05, 2012, 15:58:20 »
S obzirom da osnovni focus teži 1454 kg, ceed oko 1350 kg, Astra je tu negdje s Focusom, Golf je perolaka katergorija :)

Ovih 1200 kg je sa vozačem i 90% punim rezervarom...

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Re: Opcenita auto tema
« Reply #312 on: September 05, 2012, 16:49:11 »
jbg izbaciti ću i ja sve tekućine iz auta, akumulator, siceve itd i eto skoro ispod tone
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Re: Opcenita auto tema
« Reply #313 on: September 05, 2012, 16:57:12 »
jbg izbaciti ću i ja sve tekućine iz auta, akumulator, siceve itd i eto skoro ispod tone

Svi podaci gore su sa vozačem i gorivom. Kako god okreneš golf je puno lakši od konkurencije...

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Re: Opcenita auto tema
« Reply #314 on: September 05, 2012, 17:24:00 »
pola 2005 sam proveo u rent-a-carovom Golfu TSI
na pravcu autoputa, papučica zabijena do daske, i nakon 10-tak minuta, max brzina 155km/h
do lagane uzbrdice. Onda pada.

ovaj novi će bit 0-100 u 11,9sec
odnosno, još jedna raketa

nije poanta da auto mora bit brz, ali postoje određeni limiti, TSI je neprihvatljivo trom. Bio i, očito, ostao.